Jessie Harris

Interview of Mr. Jessie Harris, Resident of Apalachicola Hills.

Madelyn McClarey [00:00:02] My name is Madelyn McClarey. I’m here from Florida A&M University on February 15, 2020, and I’m here with the Graduate Studies History Department and I will be recording today a native of Apalachicola. So here we are.


Jessie Harris [00:00:22] My name is Jessie Harris. I’m from Apalachicola, Florida, born 1946, December the 12th. I had a birthday on last month, month before last.


Madelyn McClarey [00:00:35] Keep talking…


Jessie Harris [00:00:40] Well I was staying with my great grandmother Jessie Lane, we had the wash pots.  We had to wash clothes in the wash pots. We rubbed our clothes on the rub board. Close on the global tinta with the water pump, the wall we had to head. She had a pump, we had to pump the water and then we had a big old Carus big old heater with the oven on. We had to oh my great grandfather had let it get the wood, the oak wood.


Madelyn McClarey [00:01:14] Oh and what’s his name.


Jessie Harris [00:01:17] My great grandfather name, Herbert Lane.


Madelyn McClarey [00:01:19] OK, and your grandmother.


Jessie Harris [00:01:21] My great grandmother was named Jessie Lane.


Madelyn McClarey [00:01:23] OK.


Jessie Harris [00:01:29] I was staying with them until I got thirteen years old because of the welfare then I had to move back home with my momma. Because of their old age, they didn’t want me to mess up their checks.


Madelyn McClarey [00:01:42] OK.


Jessie Harris [00:01:44] So, so I remember all these old houses album. All these old houses down town.


Madelyn McClarey [00:01:52] Can you tell me about, like your favorite street in Apalachicola.


Jessie Harris [00:01:57] Ma’am…


Madelyn McClarey [00:01:57] Tell me about, like, one of your favorite streets from Apalachicola.


Jessie Harris [00:02:02] Well the streets. Well during that time we had the.. I wasn’t too many oyster shells and nothing but dirt… but the dirt roads.


Madelyn McClarey [00:02:05] OK. Tell me about that.


Jessie Harris [00:02:05] We had dirt roads through the alley, we had to go through the alleys.  They don’t do that no more. It ain’t too much I can remember… All I can remember is about the dirt. Then I didn’t go to the jooks too much because my great grand father didn’t allow that. But remember during them times I had to go to bed six o’clock at night time and wake up in the morning and we had family prayer on sunday mornings, they didn’t let us go to church until we have family prayer.  During that time we didn’t cook on Sundays. She cooked, she’d do her cooking on Saturday. Everything on Saturday, you didn’t wash, we didn’t do nothing on Sundays but go to church.


Madelyn McClarey [00:03:22] And what church did you go to?


Jessie Harris [00:03:24] During that time I was going to African American, Saint Paul A.M.E. Church.  They prounced it then.  That’s where I was raised up at. Under (Gail?) then she died. Until they died. then I  moved to another church now. Now I’m in a Holiness church.


Madelyn McClarey [00:03:42] OK, and tell me about what that was like at that particular time. Did you enjoy that type of family life? Tell me what


Jessie Harris [00:03:57] you. Oh, come on. My family. Yeah, well, yes, ma’am. We talk about them because you see the dating every step on a slow. You know, I had a long day ahead of where I’m sitting in that meeting with my and makes it in. And they were pretty discreet. Yeah. We didn’t go at that. They didn’t I mean, to go out at night and go out at night and no Tamanac. I just stayed home and we didn’t have no TV to do anything to have radios.


Madelyn McClarey [00:04:35] Were you in school at this time.


Jessie Harris [00:04:37] At school you did and. Oh yes.


Madelyn McClarey [00:04:42] Our experience here,


Jessie Harris [00:04:43] it was like the Catholic school, Catholic school kept Catholic teachers, non teachers in the priest, Catholic priest. It wouldn’t have been affected up in the Catholic school here from the first movie before I was sixteen. Then I went in there.


Madelyn McClarey [00:05:07] And what was that like?


Jessie Harris [00:05:09] Quien. Yeah, Quinnell with a whole lot different from some Catholic. Yeah. Cut her feet three and a half and then we’d have had a different baby this campus to have a bail


Madelyn McClarey [00:05:23] out like a church bell.


Jessie Harris [00:05:24] Yes. Oh I’m


Madelyn McClarey [00:05:26] standing here. Yes ma’am.


Jessie Harris [00:05:29] You have to ring seriously in being, in being really being welcomed into the carpet when we go in the campus. Do we have.


Madelyn McClarey [00:05:38] Oh yeah. Yeah that’s right. Right, yeah.


Jessie Harris [00:05:41] OK, I’ll be right back with you.


Madelyn McClarey [00:05:46] Did you find that like your school life was very different from when you went to church with your family?


Jessie Harris [00:05:54] Oh, yes. Yes, ma’am. But considering your family, my great grandmother beating my parents, my great grandmother and grandparents, they they send me to sixty. I went to church with them and know they took me to church. And when I hit my children, I took them to you.


Madelyn McClarey [00:06:16] Where did you take them?


Jessie Harris [00:06:17] Oh, I been moved in Tallahassee. OK, and that got back to that big old Ploning and get your grandma great grandmother the day I have my oldest out now she stay with me.


Madelyn McClarey [00:06:31] So were they also all born in Poland? No. So we go, oh ok. OK. I was trying, I was trying to connect, you know, from epaulet of. To you having children. So now I understand that, yes, how people talk to me about the way you felt growing up here. Did you feel like it was a close community in the way?


Jessie Harris [00:07:01] You know, in a way. I have to say I would say, if at all. And the good to convey them, I think we can get we can get them to be like me. Hey, you know that be. What do you


Madelyn McClarey [00:07:16] consider being so good? All these about that. Tell me about what you felt like was so good at that time about Apalachicola, where at that


Jessie Harris [00:07:26] time we we didn’t we didn’t like that, you know, like people go and go out and have good time. I didn’t I didn’t have that. We didn’t remember in that way races and that I couldn’t wear pants, you know, that had


Madelyn McClarey [00:07:47] but still you had good friendships and everything. Right. And so that’s the part about it. Oh, that’s the part about it. That was like really wonderful for you. Did you have, like, really close friends in Apalachicola?


Jessie Harris [00:08:05] I have. I had close friends, some of my friends with me now when I was being Catholic, when I was in here, the Catholic Church with me. They don’t they don’t you know, I don’t see too many people see us. You know, we would be someone I moved away if someone was still here.


Madelyn McClarey [00:08:26] So when you moved back here, though, did you feel the same kind of love that you felt or the place when, you know, when you were here before? Like when when you came back to Atlanta?


Jessie Harris [00:08:40] You know, it was a whole you know, when I came back, let’s go to benefit. Don’t change.


Madelyn McClarey [00:08:46] Talk to me about how you felt about that.


Jessie Harris [00:08:48] When you think about this, you know, I feel like, you know, I had to get used to I used to go. I had to get used to being super, not great back home. Everything everything had changed, you know, like I say, going out with my great grandmother, you know, being out with my great grandparents, they didn’t know I couldn’t go out and they didn’t like that. They you know that. But nowadays, children go left and right. And and another thing and I’m glad I’m glad they raised me. Kostia sicko’s because I’m a Christian that I’ve been out with them. They raised they raised me up in church and they came to Sunday school and said, me, we are right there in date and they have been at some school to be witness you chewing gum and, you know, and and and man, you know, it’s a whole, you know, thanks is whole not different from from from back then, you know, like you say, we can’t we can’t get them back.


Madelyn McClarey [00:10:01] So. And what about your neighbors? Like, I know that your family, your great grandparents really loved you. I can see that they, like, really made sure that you are on a good moral path. Right. So what about your neighbors? How did how would your relationships were with your neighbors? Do you have a really good close?


Jessie Harris [00:10:23] We we see my break. We see my great grandmother. But she had seen supernet with Supernatural when I was a great grandmother. I didn’t have, you know, my great grandmother had you know, she had neighbors come over to her house and she takes me to go, you know, go out and play. But Behati came here to kick. They’ll be back before they going to be fair to ask whether they’ll be going forward, though, if I don’t if it’s a B, if I be at the four o’clock and they told me I’ve been asked if they had get into the house, you know, they disagree because I go to bed at six o’clock and they go they put me to bed early, like I say, you know. Right. Right. Yeah, it really is. They really, really cutting out, you know, like I say, they adopted me. They adopted me from my my mom when I was a baby. They give me they get me when I was three months old. And and I’m glad I’m glad that the Miklosi, they you know, if they they they would, you know, will and they they they. No. Oh, how they hate chickens, they kill the chickens deep inside the house. Yes, ma’am. You know, if you have chicken egg acrobatics, right?


Madelyn McClarey [00:12:01] So you really were raised on the land in Apalachicola. And I think that’s beautiful. I have relatives in North Carolina who were raised the same way. So I think that’s a really special kind


Jessie Harris [00:12:14] of chicken and veto it. We’ve all had the snap, but don’t them that they would take a date with, you know, I remember them. You know, they don’t fear them.


Madelyn McClarey [00:12:25] Right. But you remember all of those years. That’s amazing.


Jessie Harris [00:12:30] Yes. Like I say, I’m saying three years old. And so but


Madelyn McClarey [00:12:37] let’s say you make really good friends. Ma’am, did you have good friendships here in Apalachicola?


Jessie Harris [00:12:42] Yes, ma’am. And I still got good friendships. Me and my girlfriend, me and my girlfriend, both al Qaeda, we we grew up with friends, classmates in the media. So tell


Madelyn McClarey [00:12:57] me about


Jessie Harris [00:12:58] that. And she said we was in the same place we grew up together and be. When I come back, we see obviously. Yes, ma’am. That is amazing. That’s so no hardship. And I hope some of those years I’ve been through here just like this and we still some of


Madelyn McClarey [00:13:18] your friends, but you’re more like sisters.


Jessie Harris [00:13:21] Yes. My eight year old is really happy and I love what he did to me about all the children, they think.


Madelyn McClarey [00:13:32] And that’s what I was asked. So because you were talking about that, you guys, the two of you, I’m sorry for calling you guys like I do that sometimes, but you ladies. So you were kind of brings together you moved away, came back, and we still were inseparable. You had a really good well, have a really good friendship. And then for you to be taking part in helping raise the children. Tell me what that was like. How how you helped her out. Yeah. Tell me tell me what made you want to do that?


Jessie Harris [00:14:09] You know, see, I mean, have been friends, you know, and she and she actually, you know, you know, take your kids. She was she work, you know, in banking. And I mean, if you stay at home, take care of most of those. Your grandkid got her daughter back in September and I hope to take them to cheer.


Madelyn McClarey [00:14:33] OK, OK. So what you’re saying then, you know, is that you were her friend, are her friend. I keep saying we’re if


Jessie Harris [00:14:42] e-mail me not only just hope I’m I’m just not sure


Madelyn McClarey [00:14:50] that you can keep telling her


Jessie Harris [00:14:51] family. I mean, her children will share that with my dad. We know that they held my daughter pretty bad to use me.


Madelyn McClarey [00:15:01] So you created an extended family, which is beautiful. So I’m sure that, you know, you have all types of like beautiful memories of the kids growing up this way about your daughter. You were you were telling me


Jessie Harris [00:15:17] now my daughter. Now, my daughter, she didn’t know she she she didn’t finish she didn’t finish school because she did. She went to night school and great, great to see great, great films with the name of the school at my school in Tallahassee. I couldn’t call a name of that nice. It’s a nice school. She she she grew up in Tallahassee. So she graduated USC grade. Yes, man. She had a baby. She had a grandbaby. OK, nice. Oh start with the C for the name of it is like to call it on. The community community,


Madelyn McClarey [00:16:03] not TCC, huh, TCC, S.C., Tallahassee Community


Jessie Harris [00:16:07] College is a net.


Madelyn McClarey [00:16:10] OK, I think I know where you’re talking to. It’s like lively tech or something.


Jessie Harris [00:16:14] Yes. People can go in that and behave like technical skills and see how the night finishes when they said,


Madelyn McClarey [00:16:26] that’s so wonderful. So you talk to me about how it was growing up as a young girl. Then you talk to me about how you helped your best friend become more empowered, right? That’s what you did. You helped her carry on.


Jessie Harris [00:16:44] Yes. And I’ve been in that business. I’ve been a Christian from from from being up until, you know, to a close knit. I close my heart beat that day at work when they get in behind when I come back to Christ. Been 20 some years and you’ve just been back, say yeah.


Madelyn McClarey [00:17:07] And you’ve been a wonderful support to years.


Jessie Harris [00:17:10] Right. I was a saint in the ambush and everything in


Madelyn McClarey [00:17:15] the church here.


Jessie Harris [00:17:17] Now, in my church, you see a new life,


Madelyn McClarey [00:17:20] new life church. How long have you been affiliated?


Jessie Harris [00:17:24] How long have you been in new life? On and off at Tamburlaine Machoism Panagariya. It’s my third Assisi to see the secretary and a mom who sang in the choir. We all say she’s singing.


Madelyn McClarey [00:17:38] That is


Jessie Harris [00:17:39] amazing. And I would be in the choir tomorrow.


Madelyn McClarey [00:17:42] So you’re from a musical family man. Does your you have a lot of family members who love to sing.


Jessie Harris [00:17:48] Just a matter of just my mom, my family members just from here. Yes. But my point


Madelyn McClarey [00:17:54] is, what is it


Jessie Harris [00:17:56] about seeing things in the club and sing with cranapple? And when I moved when I lived in that song that he is singing


Madelyn McClarey [00:18:05] in your face is lighting up like we say that that must be like your favorite thing to do. Is that one of your favorite things to do to sing.


Jessie Harris [00:18:14] My favorite thing to sing.


Madelyn McClarey [00:18:16] To sing in the choir. You love to do that. Oh, I love to sing. Yeah. Because your face is like


Jessie Harris [00:18:23] saying same thing. Singing.


Madelyn McClarey [00:18:24] What did you sing as a child as well.


Jessie Harris [00:18:28] Yes. My last thing is that people really.


Madelyn McClarey [00:18:31] Yes man. So can you recall. Like what. Like your favorite song was when you were younger, when you were a kid. You can recall one of those songs. Some of them were like one song that you love.


Jessie Harris [00:18:47] Oh, Jesus, love me, love me. This I know. You know, they sang the song at the assembly for Jesus. You sang is


Madelyn McClarey [00:18:58] me. So what did that make you feel like when you were a child, though? Like what feelings did it gives you, especially like being in an atmosphere like this,


Jessie Harris [00:19:09] but to CPAC nowadays, you know, mission that unless they can sing them and they get beat up, you know, are beep so they don’t sing like, you know, like, like, like Jesus. Let me look for him. We have indeed that we about we say that now we sing that like, you know, we we think that we have these amazing grace and elegance. You saying that, but not like it used to. You know what I mean?


Madelyn McClarey [00:19:39] It’s really interesting that you said that, you know, the Black History songs. And I just I think that’s so beautiful because I think sometimes people singing and they don’t even realize how important it is, like certain songs, how it really changes your mood and it makes you feel more proud of who you are. So tell me about one of the songs, the Black History song that you were just talking about. Like tell me which song you would go to make. Oh, let me see.


Jessie Harris [00:20:10] Now we come this far by faith leaning on the Lord in the black is in. Intimate. Now, Amazing Grace. It was a it was a it was it was the man that felt that that song again, the book I got the book got the book of with me singing Amazing Grace. I see it on the radio. They said he was he was only Sigbrit when he wrote the song. He was on his sickbed when he wrote the song and he wrote Amazing Grace.


Madelyn McClarey [00:20:49] How sweet that’s really is. I found that out recently too. Pretty recently too, because I didn’t know that dreams are about the song. So I feel like asking for somebody else.


Jessie Harris [00:21:06] And then we we come this far by faith, leaning on the heart and the extent to turn around. But we.


Madelyn McClarey [00:21:15] And so when you think about music like that and you think about how you were fortunate to grow up in a place like this where you could like you were saying, you could have live chickens and grow your own food and things like that. And now you see Apalachicola, you know, as a different it has a different geography, a little bit because of the houses, the new houses being more endemic.


Jessie Harris [00:21:42] You know, nothing. You see, we can you know, the thing I forget about that. But not doing him doing my day, we didn’t have that much of country house. So where was your house? Yes. And the country has been in a lot of time. A great grandmother, Namal Gulak, Bill, and yes, no trees and everything gone up the tree. And they had a team that that ti that people would call.


Madelyn McClarey [00:22:18] Is it something to


Jessie Harris [00:22:19] that effect, Betty, at things that people I think that the one that did get the fever, you could feel they had my great grandmother had it out around the yard and she and she didn’t have to go, you know, she didn’t have to go to that. In fact been Laden didn’t have to go to much to the hospital because they, you know, they adopted the from country have in it and that. And being in Vietnam now, I’m just like, you get what’s called this air defense, you know that you have to get the script right. But then we didn’t do anything. We didn’t have to beg for the air date that was really good for and anything but not Vietnam, Vietnam, be everything. Vietnam kept giving it description for doing it and getting it right. So, man, I’m sorry to say, the rabbit, tobacco, the yellow. Yes. My great grandfather. He’s going to get a rabbit back and come back and behold it.


Madelyn McClarey [00:23:38] I’ve heard about that from North Carolina.


Jessie Harris [00:23:41] Yes, man, it’s really big.


Madelyn McClarey [00:23:45] You see, my pocketbook right. Is right here, OK?


Jessie Harris [00:23:48] Yes.


Madelyn McClarey [00:23:50] It’s really beautiful to look back to be able to look back through your experiences and see that, you know, Apalachicola had so many things that were free, that were flourishing and growing and without what you said, having to always go to a doctor, having to go to school. So talk to me about how most of the people were around you.


Jessie Harris [00:24:15] People wouldn’t act around, you know, not, you know, like like you say, we didn’t have to do. We could we could leave our dogs up on the porch. We have free aspirin. Once our house, we go to church weekly. I don’t want my grandma to go down, lead, don’t open. You will not do that. Not better luck. You don’t have to do it. But you really don’t need intellect. And you’re like, my God. Like, go, you go. We have a next door neighbor. Whatever happens, you know, with the idea. The what. You know that anyway, when no stealing going braconnier and doing it Danco a week sleep on the porch, you know, on the front porch window breaking.


Madelyn McClarey [00:25:06] So life has really changed tremendously. Tell me about things, because I know that you told me that you moved away and then you will back. Tell me about things that you still really do love about Apalachicola, even though you know so much has changed. Tell me things that make you feel really


Jessie Harris [00:25:28] at home any way shape. When I moved back home with my mom, you know, it was different. You know, it was a different place, you know, because my mom had, um, my mom had worked. She she had worked for she had worked day and night in my bed, you


Madelyn McClarey [00:25:46] know, so. OK, so what was your mother’s name?


Jessie Harris [00:25:50] That somebody chaperoning Emil Jones? Yes. She had married because she decided, OK, she had 15 years here and she daddy Shabbat


Madelyn McClarey [00:26:03] and your your father,


Jessie Harris [00:26:05] my father, my father, my mother, my father and my father come back. He got sick and he died and they buried him out here in Apalachicola to my father and he got sick to get us. So he he he’s. Yes, he did, too,


Madelyn McClarey [00:26:25] and and what was his name? Robert Jones. Robert Jones. OK. I’m just trying to get your


Jessie Harris [00:26:31] name to be withdrawn. OK, so let’s a lot of money and then just make jokes about merit in my name. His hair is my Casamayor. Oh, OK. And my husband, my husband back in 1990. And if he had that we’d been together. We’ve been married other 30 some years if he hadn’t. So, so. So we’ve been together. And that is beautiful. Yes.


Madelyn McClarey [00:27:00] What about. So he was from Epaulet. You know, when I’m


Jessie Harris [00:27:04] going to move to Tallahassee, he was like, oh, he was from a loose in a place where it’s in my God, my mom put us together. Yes, ma’am.


Madelyn McClarey [00:27:18] Yes, ma’am. So, I mean, even though he’s not here now, you were so fortunate to have that long relationship is beautiful.


Jessie Harris [00:27:28] Yes, ma’am. I see, I see. I married a married man in Domenikos because, you know, what’s the one thing he’s only been outside since? I mean, Christ, I don’t think no man, no one map. And I’m not looking for no, because not many around here and, you know, they you know, they they when they go down like that, all the world has changed. Tell me about it. Yes. They want a woman to take you down.


Madelyn McClarey [00:28:06] It’s a lot


Jessie Harris [00:28:09] in my home and my husband, William, my honeymoon, he didn’t want me to he had to choose. I had to meet him when we put him on the way up and he told me, he told me so we name one of my children and we along with a. Yeah. He work in Tokyo every day. Is that something you want to put that’s on welfare? You know, Inamed on his Social Security net. Yes, he did. On his Social Security.


Madelyn McClarey [00:28:40] He looked out for you anyway.


Jessie Harris [00:28:42] This man. Yes, he took care. He took care of me.


Madelyn McClarey [00:28:47] Now, I mean that, you know, you I see the way that you glow when you talk about it. Yes, that’s it.


Jessie Harris [00:28:56] It will be your attempt to get one. And we will you will be just like that to his family right there.


Madelyn McClarey [00:29:05] So what are you. I’m going to let you go. I know you still want to enjoy your. That’s so nice out there and.


Jessie Harris [00:29:12] No, no, no, no, no, no more friends that went down. And then I’m going, oh, yeah. Abandonments. You got so many here. I mean that, you know. Yeah.


Madelyn McClarey [00:29:24] So in closing, I just want to know, like, what is the number, if you could if you could think of one or two things that you still just really love about Apalachicola, what would it be?


Jessie Harris [00:29:38] Oh, well, we don’t you know, Apalachicola, you know, see, it doesn’t it doesn’t get out that much because see you eating too many people. You know, like I say, I’m a Christian in that I’m by myself of it. And I don’t like that. I don’t go in the world. I don’t do the work that I do and I don’t do to be elected. Stay home and bless the gospel Lesnik, gospel music, then the pictures on TV and whatever. Because when you put back, I say, I don’t be here unless I’m going to the store and go right back home to see that. Like I like to say the word, the word got out that everything I need to go and you know, and I’m not mad yet, but I’m not looking for nobody, you know.


Madelyn McClarey [00:30:31] So you think that your childhood. Right. Really reared you to be even though you had your different experiences and everything, it just really made you feel. How can I say it made you come back like full circle. Yes. Right. To what you’ve always known.


Jessie Harris [00:30:55] Yes, ma’am. Yes, ma’am. Much is too much. Because like I say like I say, I’m going ahead. I’m glad I have a great mom, including what I see day to day, because she goes to stay with my mom. I had kids being at Jukin and everything. Beñat doing everything at once, both doing, you know, with efficient system only, you know, the mole here, you couldn’t do it, you couldn’t have looked at it, have no boyfriend, no nothing like that. And, you


Madelyn McClarey [00:31:29] know, but you have so much confidence in intelligence. And so I can see that they really took their time to give you everything that they help out other people in the community like that man that they look out for other people in the community who your great grandparents,


Jessie Harris [00:31:46] obviously unbaked what they do. And I see. And they’ll cherish what they do know. People don’t know more of what they are doing. Some man is sick, sick on Sundays and they need church. They are taken they have taken some food. They need a bath. If they are to go, you know, take them, give them away for, you know, go in. And if they don’t be insured, they have to be a go to the house and take what they can be half and half church to the house, you know, pray with them, sing with them. But they don’t do it in that day. And that, I guess, is almost in the world, you know, so much happening where people steal and stealing, they don’t even hate it no more.


Madelyn McClarey [00:32:36] So your grandparents, parents, your great grandparents are there, right? They were a real asset to the community. They were real assets to the community. They really helped not just you. They might be


Jessie Harris [00:32:53] able to kill me.


Madelyn McClarey [00:32:54] Tell me their names again.


Jessie Harris [00:32:55] My name is just a hair


Madelyn McClarey [00:32:58] and tell me a great grandparents name.


Jessie Harris [00:33:00] Elaine Sheila. One name and they met her just name and her name was her


Madelyn McClarey [00:33:06] name and they. And what church were they attending.


Jessie Harris [00:33:09] They would tend to St. Paul African St. Paul AME Church. Wonderful yes-man so that stayed with them until I got thirteen years old, got welfare you know welfare come in and they did. They want me cut off they shit because they go on welfare as shit. So I had to move back home to my mama. So I come. They say all good things must come to a union. Inequality.


Madelyn McClarey [00:33:36] How the system really changed the situation room. Yes ma’am. They gave you so many great gifts when you were with them.


Jessie Harris [00:33:45] Yes, ma’am. They, you know, in any way at. Oh, my great grandmother had me by my hand, you know, in the what was Africa, you know, in everything they adore and love. And another thing she she was she taught me, you take me to the stone pyramid. Don’t don’t don’t pick up. Let you know the pick. And then I came back, she, she taught me a lot and I had it in mind to put that in my chair and someone mature and when they it. Yes.


Madelyn McClarey [00:34:16] Yeah. So they set the moral code for you. Yes, ma’am.


Jessie Harris [00:34:19] You bring them down to the family. No family’s generation. Yeah. Yeah. And you’re a wonderful person. I see it as if they live in a nearby to tell you about me. And I’m the first thing they give birth, they come up with a game. The view is, that’s awesome.


Madelyn McClarey [00:34:40] I really feel like this has been a gift for me today, talking with you, because I really feel how your spirit it really is showing you how you feel about the community. Still like the things that you learned, how your you are sharing kind of person. And I really appreciate taking


Jessie Harris [00:35:03] the time, but CNN really, really my great grandmother told me, she always told me, I don’t care where you let go, keep the love of God, me take with me. So that’s what I do. I you know, and I have to logo with me. We have go. Yeah, we have some let me tell the panel. I don’t I don’t see God almost here. But, you know, look, taking with me.


Madelyn McClarey [00:35:26] That’s amazing. Is that love. And can you tell me again, like where the house was that you grew up in with your great grandparents? It’s right there now.


Jessie Harris [00:35:39] Sixth grade. They have, like their culture,


Madelyn McClarey [00:35:44] Sixth Street, OK,


Jessie Harris [00:35:46] right? That’s right.


Madelyn McClarey [00:35:49] Yeah. We came through I was


Jessie Harris [00:35:51] in the house on in the house, on the left. My level of student loans.


Madelyn McClarey [00:35:56] And what’s the what’s our whole name. Lullo. Delois Roberson. OK, Dolores Robinson,


Jessie Harris [00:36:02] you stay right off screen. That has to be that big, big house green.


Madelyn McClarey [00:36:07] That’s amazing. I’m going to look for that when we go back out.


Jessie Harris [00:36:10] Yes, ma’am. You see, it is right there. This is. It might be a Greek exit poll. OK, we go ask al Qaeda, her name with the last war was I will look for you house. I was staying in a.


Madelyn McClarey [00:36:25] Oh, that’s.


Jessie Harris [00:36:26] Oh, it’s in the family run in families. You get back, you stay home. And I hope in my office.


Madelyn McClarey [00:36:33] And that’s in black history right there. Keeping your


Jessie Harris [00:36:37] plan. Yes, ma’am. Yes, ma’am. That’s why I was just here to this way I would leave and I’m right there with her. Right. Did my great grandmother’s house.


Madelyn McClarey [00:36:46] How does it feel knowing that their house stayed in your family?


Jessie Harris [00:36:49] But, you know, it makes me feel good. You know, if I go to


Madelyn McClarey [00:36:53] her house,


Jessie Harris [00:36:55] I think about my great grandmother and think about how I think about our little challenge coming up. Growing up in, you know, in that house is


Madelyn McClarey [00:37:04] know it’s a gift to


Jessie Harris [00:37:05] write me. Man, when you go back to St. Paul, you see the house, right?


Madelyn McClarey [00:37:10] You see the screen right now. You said it’s green.


Jessie Harris [00:37:13] It’s green. Now I’m going to look for it’s green. It’s right there. Right there. Probably think about it and, you know, and it’s got a garage on it and you know, and you’ve got to make no thank you. You got to make note. She said you came with a lot of flowers in her book you can’t miss right now.


Madelyn McClarey [00:37:35] As you know, you’re going to try to take a picture by


Jessie Harris [00:37:37] there, OK, Ratman? Yes, ma’am. That is so. I mean, that’s my my my my sister, my my my baby sister city.


Madelyn McClarey [00:37:45] So, you know, right now, in a time where people are moving in and, like, buying up a lot of different properties, you guys have been you ladies, I’m sorry, you keep saying you guys it’s a habit, but you ladies have been so prosperous because you still maintained your family home. That’s really black history at its highest. Yes, I love that. Yes. Yeah. So I’m going to close out now because I know that you, you know, have other things to do. So my name is Madeline McClary and I am speaking with Jesse Harris. And we’re here Ed in Apalachicola and we’re speaking about black history in the Apalachicola African-American history pop up museum is one of the focuses here. It’s been my pleasure. Thank you so much for taking this time with me.


Jessie Harris [00:38:45] We work on.


Madelyn McClarey [00:38:47] Yes, you did. Thank you so much.